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dave bax's avatar

This is all too slow!! I am driving a toxic fossil fuel car with a crunchy 5 speed gear box on holiday hire. I notice all the cars in Greece stink, the smell is excruciatingly bad!! I miss m EVs I found a non smelly car in Greece, it was a swish Skoda EV…. I loved it. It all stinks here and the particles are going in the sea, in the fields , in the livestock, in the crops and in the kiddies. The EU is too slow to stop this nonsense!!!

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EVTim's avatar

Another great read Robert! Ps you may want to check your charging infrastructure stats - nearly 70k total chargers, not rapid. Tim at Zapmap

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Olav Kvalem's avatar

I'm Norwegian, and you all know about Norway and electric cars.

Norway is a main oil producer, and the governing grey parties wants to increase the searching for and production of oil. In my opinion this ought to give them problems with UN and The Hague for crimes against humanity.

But so they think fast money, and that actually helped concerning electric cars. They were desperately looking for the cheapest ways to fulfill The Paris agreement and electric cars came out on top.

Cars has been relative expensive in Norway with a special car tax that doubled the price, and Vat on top of that. So what if they just dropped both for electric cars? And add free toll roads, free parking, and yearly car-tax. No immediate expenses, Great!

So that's it really. I for instance needed a new car, and saw that it would be cheaper to buy a a Tesla Model S 85D than a diesel Wolksvagen Golf over 3 years - even with financing. (It's 9 years now, with more than 200.000 km on the odometer.)

Today 95% of all cars sold in Norway are electric, and there are more electric than petrol cars on the roads. Still more diesels burning oil, but by 2026 electric will dominate over the sum of other types. Car selling companies are not importing new models of fossil cars, as it has no future, and it's costly to adapt to new models.

So that business is soon finished, and all the no-pay will soon be over too. It has already started, and that is a good thing. Electic cars isn't a solution to environmental problems caused by transport, but it is a far better solution than the fossils of course.

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Paul's avatar

I think you are right, but I do know several PHEV drivers who try to use them as EVs in the week. However there has been research showing that people use them primarily without charging, so they are no better than an self charger. I believe this research looked at projected Vs actual fuel economy. I suppose normal people don't care, in fact probably they were pushed to a PHEV by leasing incentives and maybe don't know what they have.

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N Hatherell's avatar

Thank you Robert. We agree with you when you say that they are misnamed as PHEV - they should be PHICE cars.

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Doug's avatar

I’m not in the uk and live in an apartment where there was no charging infrastructure, so decided on a plugin hybrid as a compromise. With public charging despite the short range I do the majority of city driving on full electric, and manage to refuel only once every 1500km or so. Not perfect and if I get a car in the future it would likely be electric, but may work for some as a compromise.

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